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Offline Lurifax

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Molarity/percipitation
« on: October 07, 2010, 12:56:49 PM »
I'm working on a problem, but I'm not quite sure how to get started on this

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Problem:

Hard water often contains dissolved Ca2+ and Mg2+ ions. One way to soften water is to add sodium carbonate, Na2CO3.
The carbonate ion (CO2-3) forms insoluble percipitates with calcium and magnesium ions, removing them from solution.

Suppose that a solution is 0.050 M in calcium and 0.085 M magnesium nitrate.
What mass of sodium carbonate would have to be added to 1.5 L of this solution to eliminate the hard water ions?
Assume complete reactions.

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molar mass of Na2CO3: 106 g/mol

I have equations such as:

MM(molar mass) = m(mass) / n(moles)

and

M(molarity) = n(moles) / L(volume,Liters)

to work with, but how can I use the given molarity to find molarity of Na2CO3?


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Re: Molarity/percipitation
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2010, 01:01:41 PM »
how about writing the balanced ionic equations showing the precipitation of the two hard ions by formation of their carbonates.

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Re: Molarity/percipitation
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2010, 01:32:10 PM »
Would it be something like this?:

H2O + Ca2+ + Mg2+ + 2Na2CO3 

--> H2O + Ca(CO3)2 + Mg(CO3)2 + 2Na2+

I'm new to this material

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Re: Molarity/percipitation
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2010, 01:43:39 PM »
just trying to help.
congrats but would have written each one separately.
for example Mg2+ + CO32- --> MgCO3
same for Ca2+

careful with the formula though: "Ca(CO3)2"
another equation would be when Na2CO3 gets ionised in solution.

« Last Edit: October 07, 2010, 02:45:05 PM by JzalkMry »

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Re: Molarity/percipitation
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2010, 02:31:57 PM »
ok, so I have:

H20 + Mg2+ + NaCO3 ---> H20 + MgCO3 + Na2+

H2O + Ca2+ + NaCO3 ---> H20 + CaCO3 + Na2+

In order to find the mass of NaCO3 I have to find a molarity i think.
Do you know how I would go about finding this?

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Re: Molarity/percipitation
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2010, 02:37:53 PM »

H20 + Mg2+ + NaCO3 ---> H20 + MgCO3 + Na2+


water cancels out on both sides.
sodium carbonate being soluble dissociates into its ions. So, the sodium ions will cancel out as in:

for example Mg2+(aq) + CO32- (aq) --> MgCO3 (s)
you may do the same for calcium.
afterwards, you may write the equation for sodium carbonate forming its ions in solution.
careful with formula of sodium carbonate.."NaCO3"

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Re: Molarity/percipitation
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2010, 05:57:16 PM »
H20 + Mg2+ + NaCO3 ---> H20 + MgCO3 + Na2+

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