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NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« on: November 24, 2010, 02:56:02 PM »
I know that since the Br- ion in NaBr has an oxidation number of -1, it can be a reducing agent. But is it possible that since Na+ can technically be reduced to Na, can that cause NaBr to be an oxidizing agent too?

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Re: NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 03:56:21 PM »
I know that since the Br- ion in NaBr has an oxidation number of -1, it can be a reducing agent.

Really?
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Re: NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 04:54:05 PM »
Wouldn't it be a reducing agent in something like:
Cl2(aq) + 2 NaBr(aq) ---> 2 NaCl (aq) + Br2(aq)
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Re: NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 06:01:03 PM »
Yes, but no.

You are right it can be oxidized by a very strong oxidizer. But usually it is very stable. Reducing agent is something that is oxidized quite easily, like SO32- or ascorbic acid (to not mention things like some hydrides used in organic chemistry).
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Re: NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2010, 10:35:32 PM »
Oh okay. Just one last thing though, is it possible for NaBr to be reduced?

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Re: NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2010, 03:13:18 AM »
Oh okay. Just one last thing though, is it possible for NaBr to be reduced?

Reduced to what?
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Re: NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 01:54:59 PM »
Like can it be reduced to anything at all?

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Re: NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 04:58:32 PM »
How can a compound be reduced to anything?
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Re: NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2011, 05:58:56 PM »
Be careful here. Formaldehyde (compound) can be reduced to methanol (another compound).
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Re: NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2011, 08:13:28 PM »
You can heat it with potassium. The sodium should get reduced and the potassium oxidized.

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Wouldn't it be a reducing agent in something like:
Cl2(aq) + 2 NaBr(aq) ---> 2 NaCl (aq) + Br2(aq)

Yes, something gets reduced and something gets oxidized. Redox reaction.

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Re: NaBr as an oxidizing agent?
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2011, 10:09:57 PM »
I know that since the Br- ion in NaBr has an oxidation number of -1, it can be a reducing agent. But is it possible that since Na+ can technically be reduced to Na, can that cause NaBr to be an oxidizing agent too?

Theoretically yes, but both of those reactions (oxidation of Br- and reduction of Na+) require a lot of energy to break the octet configurations of the ions. It's a lot easier to think about the ions independently here and assume an aqueous solution (a theoretical aqueous solution where the sodium metal doesn't oxidize immediately and explode, preferably). That way you can say that the Br- ion could be a reducing agent in a certain reaction and that Na+ could be an oxidizing agent in a certain reaction, instead of saying that an aqueous salt is being oxidized and reduced at the same time in each formula unit (which it isn't).  Also, in the end, electron affinities trump oxidation states in determining oxidizing and reducing agents (in theory).

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