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Permanganate Concentration
« on: February 22, 2011, 10:23:59 AM »
I am not a chemist or have any profession on chemistry but i do have a question and i hope you understand it here goes: 

-I have a solution of KMnO4(Potassium PerManganate), 
20Kg KMnO4 is mixed with 620L H2O which I believe yields = 3.22% concentration of KMnO4 and [with a of Ph = 8 or 10?i will
have to test this tomorrow.]

-KMnO4 is now constantly bubbled with CO2 gas which dilutes the concentration and after a while(days) some KMnO4 +H2O liquid dries up and Ph is now less than before therefore assuming that my concentration of KMnO4 is now less(?).


1.) How do I determine the spent concentration of KMnO4? [my only apparatus is a Ph meter, a sight glass to measure height of my solution in container, and my eyes to see the color of KMnO4]   


2.) How do I compute for make-up concentration ratio (KMnO4 Kg / H2O L) in order that my spent KMnO4 gets back to 3.22%
concentration? 

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Re: Permanganate Concentration
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2011, 12:09:49 PM »
Bubbling CO2 may dry out the solution INCREASING permanganate concentration - add enough water to get the level of the solution to the initial value and you are back to initial concentration. If anything reacts with permanganate, it is not CO2. Quite possible that permanganate decomposes. No simple method of its concentration determination (that is, no simple method that can use only things you have at hand).
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Re: Permanganate Concentration
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2011, 06:50:48 PM »
Bubbling CO2 may dry out the solution INCREASING permanganate concentration - add enough water to get the level of the solution to the initial value and you are back to initial concentration. If anything reacts with permanganate, it is not CO2. Quite possible that permanganate decomposes. No simple method of its concentration determination (that is, no simple method that can use only things you have at hand).

as for bubbling co2 isnt it that the permanganate gets spent since we are reacting it to other contaminants the co2 injected on the KMnO4 is not pure we are consistently removing the H2S and Sulfur etc with KMnO4? thus giving it a brown color and concentration is lower? 
is there any way of determining the concentration? are there any apparatus' or methods? thanks

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Re: Permanganate Concentration
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 05:09:59 AM »
Contaminants are not CO2.

As for methods - spectroscopy or just a simple http://www.titrations.info/permanganate-titration comes to mind.
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