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tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« on: March 03, 2011, 04:55:11 AM »
In a titration of 20mL NH3(aq) with 0,1M HCl(aq)
26mL HCl is added in the Equivalence point.

I think that this reaction of correct  (right?): HCl + NH4+ + OH-   --> NH4Cl + H2O

how do I calculate the concentration of NH3(aq), and calculate the pH in the equivalence point?

what kind of chemical compound do you have in the Equivalence point?

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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 09:23:52 AM »
more explanation plz.

i have a potnetiometric titration

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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 10:10:42 AM »
Show some effort, nobody is going to solve these questions for you.
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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 11:55:49 AM »

n=V*c
n(NH_3 )=n(HCl)=0.026l*0.1mol/l=0.0026mol
c(NH_3 )=0.0026mol/0.02l=0.13mol/l


is this right?

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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 01:01:09 PM »
So far so good, you have a correct concentration of ammonia in the titrated solution.
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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 01:29:47 PM »
cool. what about the pH?

do I have a Buffer solution in equivalence point?

If so my guess is:

pH=pk_s+log⁡(/ )
pK_s (NH_4 )=9,25

pH=9,25+log⁡(0.13/0.1)=9,3

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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 01:32:33 PM »
woops !
one more try


pH=pk_s+log(B/S )

pK_s (NH_4 )=9,25

pH =   9,25 +  log (0.13/0.1)  =  9,3

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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 03:17:02 PM »
No, you don't have a buffer at equivalence point. All base was protonated.

Check links that I posted. The answer is there.
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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2011, 05:36:17 AM »
Okay. I hope this solution is right.

pK_b (NH_4 )=9.25
K_b (NH_4 )=〖10〗^(-9.25)

[ OH^- ]=√(K_b*c_b )=√(〖10〗^(-9.25)*0.13)=.000009


pOH=- log(.000009)= 5.5≈5

pH=14-pOH=14-5=9

is the pH right?

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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 06:32:10 AM »
pK_b (NH_4 )=9.25

Not there yet. pKb listed is not for NH4+. Ammonia is a base, but NH4+ is not.
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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2011, 08:07:10 AM »
hmm.. so

this is the situation: [H_3 O]^2   + K_s* [H_3 O^+ ]-  c_s* K_s  = 0

concentration oxonium:        [ 〖H_3 O 〗^+ ]=√(K_s*c_s )=√(〖10〗^(-9.25)*0.13)=.000009

pH=-log(.000009)= 5.5≈5


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Re: tiration: Calculate concentration and pH
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 11:37:45 AM »
No idea what Ks and cs are, no idea what the equation is, no idea what you are doing.

Situation you are dealing with is explained on the page two clicks away from this thread - I suppose you have already visited it, but you have not read it carefully.
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