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hydrogen cyanide
« on: September 19, 2005, 09:00:43 AM »
Hydrogen cyanide adds to propanone in the presence of bases but not in the presence of acids. Why is this?

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Re:hydrogen cyanide
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2005, 03:05:59 PM »
Think about what happens to hydrogen cyanide in the presence of acids and bases.  Will the reagent be more nucleophilic in one or the other?

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Re:hydrogen cyanide
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2005, 06:58:39 AM »
base catalyzed :

H-CN  +   OH-    ---->  CN- +H20        step one
(acid)    (base)  

CN- + propanone ----> product            step two


in the first step the base should be used completely else it could deprotonate propanone and cause a condensation reaction.

acid catalyzed:

H-CN + H+ ----> no reaction     (* in absence of H2O)
propanone + H+ ----> activates propanone for nucleophilic reactions

although H+ activates propanone for nucleophilic reactions the lack of a good nucleophile in the reaction mixture eliminates any chance of this reaction ever happening.





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