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Offline BetaAmyloid

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Titration
« on: July 16, 2011, 12:26:49 AM »
Okay, I need a little help on a titration problem. I have done tons of these and have gotten them right, but for some reason this one I keep messing up!

Here is the original question: A 111.0 mL sample of 0.105 M methylamine is titrated with 0.235 M HNO3. Calculate the pH after the addition of each of the following volumes of acid. (Vol. Acid = 49.6 mL) ; Kb = 3.7*10-4

My work:
CH3NH2 + HNO3 :rarrow: HNO2- + HCH3NH2+

.111 L * .105 M = .011655 mol CH3NH2
.0496 L * .235 M = .011656 mol HNO3
.000001 mol HCH3NH2+
.000001 mol/.1606 L = 6.22*10-6 = [HCH3NH2+]

HCH3NH2+ + H2O :rarrow: CH3NH2 + H3O+

Ka = 1*10-14/3.7*10-4 = 2.70*10-11

Ka = [CH3NH2][H3O+]/[HCH3NH2+]

x = 1.30*10-8

pH = pKa + log([CH3NH2]/[HCH3NH2+])

pH = 10.57 + log([6.22*10-6]/[1.30*10-8])

Here I'm completely getting the wrong pH.

The real answer is supposed to be 5.85 for the pH.

Could someone tell me what I did wrong or point me in the right direction?

Thanks! :)
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Offline BluePill

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Re: Titration
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2011, 01:12:39 AM »
I think that you won't form a buffer here since all methylamine has been used up.

mol base = 0.011655
mol acid =  0.011656

net mol of acid = 1 x 10-6

considering the autoionization of water:

1 x 10-14 = (x + 6.23 x 10-6) (x)

x = 1.61 x 10-9

total [H+] = 1.61 x 10-9 + 6.23 x 10-6

pH = 5.21

Still off though

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Re: Titration
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2011, 09:02:55 PM »
pH = 5.21

Still off though

Thanks for the response!

Yeah, I considered since the mole values were so close to to neutralization, and I also got pH ~ 5.21.

I know for sure the answer is pH = 5.85 (textbook says so).

Hmmm...Any other ideas?? :o
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