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Calculating w/w% and uncertainty
« on: December 01, 2011, 01:10:59 PM »
Hey, I'm doing a lab report and I was wondering if anyone could help me with doing one of the calculations to include which is

"Using the equation of the line of best fit, calculate the w/w% benzodiazepine (diazepam) in the tablet and, the uncertainty in this value. Express the uncertainty as both an absolute (w/w%) value and a relative (%) value."

How exactly would I go about getting the w/w% value?

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Re: Calculating w/w% and uncertainty
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2011, 01:22:20 PM »
Hey, I'm doing a lab report and I was wondering if anyone could help me with doing one of the calculations to include which is

"Using the equation of the line of best fit, calculate the w/w% benzodiazepine (diazepam) in the tablet and, the uncertainty in this value. Express the uncertainty as both an absolute (w/w%) value and a relative (%) value."

How exactly would I go about getting the w/w% value?

Thanks

What was the lab you carried out? Standardisations or similar?

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Re: Calculating w/w% and uncertainty
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2011, 02:17:46 PM »

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What was the lab you carried out? Standardisations or similar?
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It was a hplc lab practical, here is a part of the schedule we where provided with

3. You are provided with a mixture of nitrazepam and diazepam in solution in methanol (each
30.0 mg dm-3) - solution marked A. Load the loop of the injection valve with solution A using
the HPLC syringe provided. In order to completely fill the loop you will need to inject ~50μl
of sample solution. Ensure that the loop is loading correctly by monitoring the injection loop
waste tube. Twist the handle to 'inject' and start the recording device.
4. Whilst the chromatogram is running, return the injection loop to the starting position and
rinse with ~100μl pure methanol – again checking the waste tube.
5. The chromatogram should take 5-10 minutes to run and should show a small solvent peak
and two analyte peaks. Check that the chromatographic performance is satisfactory before
continuing.
6. You are provided with separate reference solutions of the two analytes in methanol (each
15.0 mg dm-3) – B and C. Inject these and obtain the chromatograms. B is the diazepam, C is
nitrazepam.
7. Solutions D, E, F, G, contain varying amounts of the two analytes in mixtures. The
concentration of each analyte is as in the table below. Inject each in turn and obtain
chromatograms. Identify the analytes from the previous results and enter the peak heights (or
areas if a computing integrator is used) in the table
Tablet
Weigh the tablet provided accurately (4 d.p. balance). Carefully powder the tablet in the
mortar provided. Quantitatively transfer the powder to a 50 cm3 conical flask and add about 30
cm3 of the methanol. Use the funnel to help in the transfer. Place the flask in the ultrasonic bath
for 10 minutes. Filter the mixture through the sintered crucible and wash the residue with
methanol. Transfer quantitatively to a 100 cm3 volumetric flask and make up to the mark with
methanol. Label this solution H. Care in making this solution is critical to the accuracy of your
result. You must not lose any solid or solution at any stage.
11. Inject H and obtain a chromatogram. Repeat twice more if possible.

treatment of results
Treatment of Results
1. By comparing the chromatogram of H to those of B and C decide which benzodiazepine is
present in the tablet.
2. Using Excel (or similar software) plot a calibration graph of peak area/machine units
(height/mm if an integrator is not used) against concentration for the two analytes. Plot a line
of best fit through the data, using the method of least squares, for each of the two analytes, and
obtain equations describing the two lines.
3. Using the equation of the line of best fit, calculate the w/w% benzodiazepine in the tablet
and, the uncertainty in this value (See Miller and Miller Chapter 5, and the Semester 1 lecture
notes on calibration). Express the uncertainty as both an absolute (w/w%) and a relative (%)
value. Remember to allow for dilution steps in the sample preparation process in calculating
both the w/w% and its associated uncertainty.
4. Label the scan of a single a representative chromatogram, with tR, tm and tR’ , wb and w½ in
minutes for each analyte. Cut and paste this into your report together with a table of values in
minutes for the five parameters.
5. By using the values from 4 above calculate n and k for each analyte.
6. Calculate α and Rs for this pair of analytes under these conditions.

so its number 3 I'm having difficult with


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Re: Calculating w/w% and uncertainty
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2011, 02:59:09 PM »
So there are three numbers that you need to calculate for question 3 - the w/w% of benzodiazepine in the tablet, the absolute error in that measurement, and the relative error in that measurement. Do you know what the mathematical definitions for each of those would be, and where in your experiments, you would find the values to calculate them from?

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Re: Calculating w/w% and uncertainty
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2011, 03:00:28 PM »
So there are three numbers that you need to calculate for question 3 - the w/w% of benzodiazepine in the tablet, the absolute error in that measurement, and the relative error in that measurement. Do you know what the mathematical definitions for each of those would be, and where in your experiments, you would find the values to calculate them from?

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Re: Calculating w/w% and uncertainty
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 03:58:09 AM »
so can anyone help? :(

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Re: Calculating w/w% and uncertainty
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 04:36:15 AM »
What does your answer for step 2 look like?

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Re: Calculating w/w% and uncertainty
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2011, 04:44:52 AM »
What does your answer for step 2 look like?

Ive got 2 equations in step 2, one for nitrazepam and one for diazepam which is the benzodiazepine found in the hplc of the unknown tablet. the equation for  the nitrazepam one is y = 41310x - 16245 and the diazepam one is y = 44358x - 38474

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Re: Calculating w/w% and uncertainty
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2011, 04:52:06 AM »
What does your answer for step 2 look like?

Ive got 2 equations in step 2, one for nitrazepam and one for diazepam which is the benzodiazepine found in the hplc of the unknown tablet. the equation for  the nitrazepam one is y = 41310x - 16245 and the diazepam one is y = 44358x - 38474

OK, from step 1 you presumably know which benzodiazepine you have. Now, from your unknown, you have a value recorded which you can plug into one of these equations to get the concentration in your unknown.

Consider errors in measurement for the uncertainity - how precise were your scales / in your volumetric glassware (is it the right temperature in the lab, etc)

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Re: Calculating w/w% and uncertainty
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2011, 05:07:01 AM »
What does your answer for step 2 look like?

Ive got 2 equations in step 2, one for nitrazepam and one for diazepam which is the benzodiazepine found in the hplc of the unknown tablet. the equation for  the nitrazepam one is y = 41310x - 16245 and the diazepam one is y = 44358x - 38474

OK, from step 1 you presumably know which benzodiazepine you have. Now, from your unknown, you have a value recorded which you can plug into one of these equations to get the concentration in your unknown.

Consider errors in measurement for the uncertainity - how precise were your scales / in your volumetric glassware (is it the right temperature in the lab, etc)




ohhhh ok thank you!!!, for the uncertainty is there a specific equation for it? as it says calculate the uncertainty?

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