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Offline clark26

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Aniline and grignard
« on: January 21, 2012, 10:28:53 PM »
Hi..

What protection group can you use when you have to protect o-aminoaniline against grignard and subsequent acid (HCl and HBr)? I'm really lost.

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Re: Aniline and grignard
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 08:45:20 PM »
Hi clark26, this may be too late, but if not, could you elaborate on what kind of reaction you're trying to accomplish? For instance, is this part of multi-step synthesis problem? I'm not familiar with any reactions of o-aminoaniline (even if it were protected) and a grignard.

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Re: Aniline and grignard
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 12:19:11 PM »
Hi..

What protection group can you use when you have to protect o-aminoaniline against grignard and subsequent acid (HCl and HBr)? I'm really lost.
U should try acilation of aniline with CH3COCl.Thats good protective group.

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Re: Aniline and grignard
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 12:46:38 AM »
U should try acilation of aniline with CH3COCl.Thats good protective group.

Unfortunately, acylation wouldn't protect against a grignard--acylation would create an amide with a proton on the nitrogen that's acidic enough to be deprotonated by the (strongly basic) grignard--or the grignard would attack the carbonyl of the newly formed amide.

Acylation would, however, protect for a Friedel-Crafts acylation or alkylation.

I still don't think there was going to be a reaction take place in any case.

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Re: Aniline and grignard
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 09:37:57 PM »
Weird idea here, can`t you react o-aminoaniline with excess glyoxal? It could make a bridge. Not sure if this compount can be isolated, but if it can, you should be able to do your grignard reaction.
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Re: Aniline and grignard
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 12:47:37 PM »
Imines aren't exactly impervious to Grignard reagents.

Converting the amines to amides, then using 3+ equivalents of Grignard reagent might work, if the Grignard isn't a costly product.

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