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When Lugol's solution absorbs sulfur dioxide...
« on: February 27, 2012, 12:53:34 AM »
I think that the chemical reaction formula in this case is:
SO2+I2+2H20→H2SO4+2HI

If this is right, KI, which is involved in Lugol's iodine, does not react
with SO2?

Please help me.

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Re: When Lugol's solution absorbs sulfur dioxide...
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2012, 07:14:11 AM »
Yes.  The reaction I'd seen before was that one.  To help you understand it better:  What type of reaction is this?  Can you see what is happening to both reagents?  Does that give you a clue as to why the reaction won't proceed on the KI?  (Note: this is just a clue as to why it won't proceed on the KI, you would have to do more work to be sure.)
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Re: When Lugol's solution absorbs sulfur dioxide...
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2012, 10:39:50 AM »
Yes.  The reaction I'd seen before was that one.  To help you understand it better:  What type of reaction is this?  Can you see what is happening to both reagents?  Does that give you a clue as to why the reaction won't proceed on the KI?  (Note: this is just a clue as to why it won't proceed on the KI, you would have to do more work to be sure.)

I know that this is oxidation reduction reaction.
In this case(SO2+I2+2H20→H2SO4+2HI),
for SO2, SO2+2H2O→SO42-+4H++2e- happens.
For I2, I2+2e-→2I- happens.

But, the problem here is that depending on the circumstance, SO2 can work as oxidizing agent.
: SO2+4H++4e-→S+2H2O

Fortunately, Lugol's solution contains KI, which provides iodide ion.
: 2I-→I2+2e-

That's why I think that another possible reaction can be considered:
SO2+2H2O+4KI→S+2I2+4KOH

I am confused.


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Re: When Lugol's solution absorbs sulfur dioxide...
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 12:41:38 PM »
Good work.  You recognize that this is a red-ox reaction.  And you know some additional reactions the KI-I2 system has.  Now, you have to consider if SO2 has sufficient reducing power to affect the KI salt.
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Re: When Lugol's solution absorbs sulfur dioxide...
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 12:20:45 AM »
Good work.  You recognize that this is a red-ox reaction.  And you know some additional reactions the KI-I2 system has.  Now, you have to consider if SO2 has sufficient reducing power to affect the KI salt.

I am sure that SO2 has sufficient reducing power to affect the I2.

Of course, It is taken for granted that reducing power of SO2 cannot make KI deoxdized.
However, as i mentioned above, SO2 is an oxidizing agent in some cases. For example, when SO2 meets H2S, this reaction happens: 2H2S+SO2→3S+2H2O
Obviously, SO2 works as an oxidizing agent.
Therefore, I want to know whether SO2 has sufficient oxidizing power to affect I-.

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Re: When Lugol's solution absorbs sulfur dioxide...
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 03:06:20 PM »
As someone has posted in another, similar thread, http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=56657.msg204213#msg204213 you have to compare red-ox potentials.  Wikipedia has a handy table:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_electrode_potential_%28data_page%29
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Re: When Lugol's solution absorbs sulfur dioxide...
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 05:32:23 PM »
depending on the circumstance

As Arkcon wrote, it all depends on the redox potentials (and sometimes on kinetics). According to tables, standard electrode potential for iodine half reaction is higher than the standard electrode potential for (both) SO2 reactions. That means iodine will be the oxidizing agent.

Interestingly, standard potentials for I2/I- reaction and SO2/S reaction are very similar (+0.54V vs +0.50V), so correctly selecting concentrations and SO2 pressure it should be possible to reduce iodides to iodine, but you would need very low pH (around zero) and a relatively high pressure of SO2 (atmospheric at least). It still doesn't mean reaction would go as expected, but at least in terms of potentials it looks possible.
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Re: When Lugol's solution absorbs sulfur dioxide...
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2012, 05:02:52 AM »

That's why I think that another possible reaction can be considered:
SO2+2H2O+4KI→S+2I2+4KOH


I find this highly plausible as I had worked out similar thoughts on this issue over an exercise sheet of reaction diagrams and found the same answer in the solutions I got at the student body's department.
However, it also states that in the reaction of SO2 (g) with KI, there is a <b>white</b> precipitate forming.
Is there any form of white elemental sulfur? I've looked through dozens of books and the Internet but I don't seem to find any.  ???


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Re: When Lugol's solution absorbs sulfur dioxide...
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2012, 07:04:03 AM »
I don't have a citation, but yes, I had heard that a finely divided elemental sulfur precipitate can look white.
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Re: When Lugol's solution absorbs sulfur dioxide...
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2012, 07:09:36 AM »
I can confirm it looks white, at least initially.
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