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Offline ONUR GÜMÜŞ

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hi, can you help me :(
« on: April 16, 2012, 07:36:10 AM »
how can i do this reaction,  :( ? thanks...

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Re: hi, can you help me :(
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 08:44:30 AM »
Do you mean how would you carry it out in the lab, or what is the mechanism for the reaction occurring on paper?

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Re: hi, can you help me :(
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 02:43:32 AM »
how can i do this reaction in lab?

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Re: hi, can you help me :(
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 06:51:11 AM »
how can i do this reaction in lab?

Perhaps search for something like enones and thiourea or similar? (e.g. http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/10426500108040582 )

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Re: hi, can you help me :(
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2012, 07:57:11 AM »
Have you done any searching at all for this reaction? I get 195 hits using SciFinder. The first few seem to use KOH in EtOH at reflux.

What tools do you have available for searching reactions?

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Re: hi, can you help me :(
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2012, 08:30:02 AM »
usually I am using the web of science and science direct. I used these methods in the search engines.. I found the article in science direct which is in DMF at reflux.

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Re: hi, can you help me :(
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 08:45:32 AM »
That may depend on what your R group is. Here is a reference for both R groups being simply phenyl rings:

Preparation of heterocycles by the reaction of diaza binucleophiles with chalcones: influence of the substituent on position 2;  Simon, Dominique et al, Journal of Heterocyclic Chemistry, 22(6), 1551-7; 1985.

The reaction doesn't seem to work nearly as well if the R groups are alkyl groups - lower yields in general and more forcing conditions.

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Re: hi, can you help me :(
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 09:07:06 AM »
Thank you very much everyone.
Now I've started a method of KOH and EtOH.
I hope it happens :)

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