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Offline bmthog

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Name of structure
« on: June 09, 2012, 04:23:58 AM »
Please help me, how to call this structure:
N2HSO4-C6H4-SO2Cl

I try to call it "sulfonylchloride benzenediazonium hydrosulfate", but it's wrong :(
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 04:34:53 AM »
Quote from: bmthog on June 09, 2012, 04:23:58 AM
Please help me, how to call this structure:
N2HSO4-C6H4-SO2Cl

I try to call it "sulfonylchloride benzenediazonium hydrosulfate", but it's wrong :(

Can you draw it out? Seems to me you have a couple of oxygens too many, and it would be nice to see the spatial arrangement of the substituents?
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 07:55:02 AM »
Anybody help me please. I don't think spatial arragement effect anything on name of structure?
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 08:02:13 AM »
Umm ... no, that's not true.  Spatial arrangement definitely changes the name, even for very complicated inorganics, as this one is.  Also, if you're not charge balanced, then the name will never be correct.
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2012, 09:09:56 AM »
Here's the structure, please help me name it, tks in advance :)


Sorry it's benzene cycle not cyclohexan :(
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2012, 09:24:26 AM »
Quote from: bmthog on June 09, 2012, 09:09:56 AM
Here's the structure, please help me name it, tks in advance :)


Sorry it's benzene cycle not cyclohexan :(

How about the following?
4-(chlorosulfonyl)benzenediazonium hydrogensulfate
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2012, 09:26:28 AM »
Quote from: discodermolide on June 09, 2012, 09:24:26 AM
How about the following?
4-(chlorosulfonyl)benzenediazonium hydrogensulfate

If call chloro that means chlor attachs to benzene but it doesn't ?
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2012, 09:30:25 AM »
Quote from: bmthog on June 09, 2012, 09:26:28 AM
Quote from: discodermolide on June 09, 2012, 09:24:26 AM
How about the following?
4-(chlorosulfonyl)benzenediazonium hydrogensulfate

If call chloro that means chlor attachs to benzene but it doesn't ?

No it means what it says chlorosulfonyl! Otherwise it would be a chlorobenzene.
What is your suggestion for a name?
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 10:08:31 AM »
How about "4-(sulfonylchloride)benzenediazonium hydrogensulfate"?
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 10:15:51 AM »
Quote from: bmthog on June 09, 2012, 10:08:31 AM
How about "4-(sulfonylchloride)benzenediazonium hydrogensulfate"?

no it is a chlorosulfonyl substituent, the sulfur is attached to the ring not the chlorine as I said above.
As I asked what is your suggestion?
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2012, 10:47:50 AM »
Quote from: sjb on June 09, 2012, 04:34:53 AM
Quote from: bmthog on June 09, 2012, 04:23:58 AM
Please help me, how to call this structure:
N2HSO4-C6H4-SO2Cl

I try to call it "sulfonylchloride benzenediazonium hydrosulfate", but it's wrong :(

Can you draw it out? Seems to me you have a couple of oxygens too many, and it would be nice to see the spatial arrangement of the substituents?

Ahh, misread this as being a sulphonamide, rather than a diazonium salt. Discodermolide's suggestion seems fine to me.
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2012, 11:01:14 AM »
I understand now, tks Discodermolide :)
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Re: Name of structure
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2012, 11:02:19 AM »
Quote from: bmthog on June 09, 2012, 11:01:14 AM
I understand now, tks Discodermolide :)

No problem ::)
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