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Equilibrium Problem
« on: October 05, 2012, 02:37:07 AM »
Hello, I am new to these forums. It's the weekend and I can't get a hold of my professor, so I thought I could get help from chemists off of some forums. It is pretty late, I'm frustrated with this problem, it is getting the best of me.

Anyways, here is the problem.

Kc = 0.040 for the system below at 450°C. If a reaction is initiated with 0.20 mole of Cl2 and 0.20 mole of PCl3 in a 1.0 liter container, what concentration of PCl3 will be present at equilibrium?

PCl5  ::equil:: PCl3 + Cl2 (all of them are in the gas phase)

If you could somehow explain it to me so I can understand what to do would be awesome. I am given the answer, which is 0.07M, but I am getting something totally different.

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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2012, 03:44:25 AM »
Write the expression for Kc, and build ICE table.
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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2012, 04:07:41 AM »
I am given the answer, which is 0.07M, but I am getting something totally different.

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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2012, 09:25:40 PM »
Ok, the first thing that I do is convert the moles of PCl3 and Cl2 to molarity by dividing it by the liters given, which is one. So, the molarity that I get is .20 M PCl3 and .20 M Cl2. From this, I set up my ICE tables.

I   0.20 PCl3          0.20 Cl2                      0 M PCl5

C  -x                                     -x                                             +x

E 0.20-x                               0.20-x                                          x


So far, am I doing this right?

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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2012, 03:42:35 AM »
Looks OK so far. Just note you have reversed the reaction.
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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2012, 03:27:17 PM »
Ok, from the ICE table I get this.

0.040 = [(0.2-x)2]/x

Then I try to solve for X. Which results in this.

0.040x = [(0.2-x)2]/x

Is this correct so far?

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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2012, 04:00:04 PM »
Ok, from the ICE table I get this.

0.040 = [(0.2-x)2]/x

This is OK.

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0.040x = [(0.2-x)2]/x

This is not.
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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2012, 10:00:08 PM »
I am sorry, this is what I meant to put.

0.040x = [(0.2-x)2]

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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2012, 04:57:41 AM »
This is correct, but it has nothing to do with solving for x. You have to rearrange the equation till it is obvious its a quadratic function, then solve it by completing the square (or any other equivalent method).
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