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Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« on: November 13, 2012, 04:15:27 AM »
Here is a question from my school paper:


Balance the following by ion electron method:

[itex]Cl_2+OH^{-}\rightarrow ClO_3^{-}+Cl^{-}+H_2O[/itex]

For some reason I am not being able to do it by this method.(I have to do it and formally write it up so that I get maximum credit)

I was in a dilemma, so, I tried changing the equation into this:

[itex]Cl_2+KOH\rightarrow KClO_3+KCl+H_2O[/itex] and by the oxidation number method, I got this :

[itex]3Cl_2+6KOH\rightarrow KClO_3+5KCl+3H_2O[/itex]

Can anyone please write up a solution by the ion-electron method so that I read it and understand where I am going wrong?
Thanks a ton.
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2012, 04:36:05 AM »
Can you write skeletal reduction and oxidation reactions? Or at least list what is being oxidized (and to what) and what is being reduced (and to what)?
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2012, 07:49:25 AM »
This is what I tried:

Reduction half reaction:

[itex]Cl_2\rightarrow ClO_3^{-}+Cl^{-}[/itex] and the
reduction half reaction:[itex]OH^{-}\rightarrow H_2O[/itex]

The first one can be balanced by
[itex]Cl_2+6OH^{-}\rightarrow ClO_3^{-}+Cl^{-}+3H_2O+4e[/itex]
I don't understand where I am going wrong.
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 08:52:36 AM »
Reduction half reaction:

[itex]Cl_2\rightarrow ClO_3^{-}+Cl^{-}[/itex]

This is not reduction. You have both reduction and oxidation here. Assign oxidation numbers to Cl in all three compounds.
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2012, 09:33:54 AM »
I give up.
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2012, 09:44:42 AM »
Before even trying?

What is oxidation number of Cl in Cl2?
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2012, 10:17:26 AM »
0 ?

I am in trouble.I am surely going to fail my chemistry exam.
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2012, 10:31:33 AM »
Don't give up too early.

Yes, zero.

This one is also easy - what is the oxidation number of chlorine in Cl-?

This one can be a little bit harder - what is the oxidation number of chlorine in ClO3-?
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2012, 10:34:06 AM »
I used the oxidation number method to do the balancing. :(

The oxidation number of [itex]Cl^{-}[/itex] is -1 and in [itex]ClO_3^{-}[/itex] is +5.
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2012, 10:48:16 AM »
OK.

Now, you have chlorine that is oxidized to +5, and chlorine that is reduced to -1. THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE HALF REACTIONS. Can you write separately oxidation half reaction and reduction half reaction (just as a skeletal ones, don't worry about balancing yet)?
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2012, 10:56:19 AM »
Here are they:

[tex]Cl_2\rightarrow ClO_3^{-}[/tex]
and [itex]Cl_2\rightarrow Cl^{-}[/itex].Sorry for making you shout.
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2012, 10:58:59 AM »
I wasn't shouting, I just wanted to make it clear what is important here  :)

[tex]Cl_2\rightarrow ClO_3^{-}[/tex]
[tex]Cl_2\rightarrow Cl^{-}[/tex]

That's correct. Now, that you have both half reactions in skeletal form, can you balance each one separately?
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2012, 11:12:08 AM »
Like this?

[itex]Cl_2+12OH^{-} \rightarrow 2ClO_3^{-}+6H_2O+10e\dots \boxed{1}[/itex] and [itex]Cl_2+2e\rightarrow 2Cl^{-}\dots \boxed{2}[/itex]

Multiplying (2) by 5 and adding, we get
[itex]6Cl_2+12OH^{-}\rightarrow 2ClO_3^{-}+6H_2O+10Cl^{-}[/itex].
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2012, 11:16:38 AM »
Almost there - just note you can still divide everything by 2.

Wasn't that hard  :P
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Re: Help in balancing by ion-electron method
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2012, 12:00:03 PM »
Yeah, I noticed that.

To be precise, I was making a fundamental error(besides being careless not to balance Cl).That led to all that confusion.

Thanks for being patient.
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