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Oxacalix[3]arene
« on: April 02, 2013, 03:12:16 PM »
I have been recently working with the oxacalix[3]arenes and following literature to form the tris acid derivative. However on formation of the amide, i have been unable to obtain the tris acid through a standard base hydrolysis with NaOH. The amide is formed through the attachment of N,N-dichloroacetimide to the OH groups of the oxacalix[3]arene.
Anyway, the scheme is below, i was just wondering why it may not work.

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Re: Oxacalix[3]arene
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2013, 04:04:25 PM »
It is useful if you refer to compound numbers in the scheme. It would also be useful to show reagents for steps i-iv.

However on formation of the amide,

Which amide?

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i have been unable to obtain the tris acid through a standard base hydrolysis with NaOH.

Which tris(acid)? 14a?

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The amide is formed through the attachment of N,N-dichloroacetimide to the OH groups

Do you mean some kind of N,N-dialkyl-2-chloroacetamide?

ClCC(=O)(N(*)(*))

Can you draw it?
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Re: Oxacalix[3]arene
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2013, 08:12:12 AM »
Sorry about that, the step below is the one i'm most concerned about. I have also used 2M, 3M NaOH  and a potassium tertbutoxide solution. Though none of these worked either.

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Re: Oxacalix[3]arene
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 08:19:46 AM »
I have also used 2M, 3M NaOH  and a potassium tertbutoxide solution. Though none of these worked either.

What do you mean by not working, no reaction or unwanted reactions?

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Re: Oxacalix[3]arene
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2013, 08:26:37 AM »
No reaction, just left with starting material.

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Re: Oxacalix[3]arene
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2013, 08:36:14 AM »
You could try LiOH in aqueous alcohol or THF - that is a common recipe for amide hydrolysis.

Why not use ethyl bromoacetate (substantially cheaper than 2-chloro-N,N-diethylacetamide) to make the ester instead of the amide? The ester will be far easier to hydrolyse.

It is also possible to just use chloroacetic acid directly and avoid a hydrolysis step entirely.
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