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Two Questions {reduction potentials}
« on: April 08, 2013, 11:48:34 PM »
41. Use the given standard reduction potentials to determine
the reduction potential for this half-reaction.
MnO4-+e- --> MnO42- +0.564 V
MnO42-+2e-+4H+ --> MnO2+2H2O +2.261 V
(A) 1.695 V (B) 2.825 V
(C) 3.389 V (D) 5.086 V
I just put each in terms of ΔG so I could add them and converted back to E and got choice D (-(1)(96500)(0.564))+(-(2)(96500)(2.261)))/(96500)
However, the given answer is choice A so why is this wrong?

42. How many Faradays are required to reduce all the
chromium in 0.150 L of 0.115 M of Cr2O72- to Cr2+?
(A) 0.920 F (B) 0.690 F
(C) 0.138 F (D) 0.069 F
I wasn't really sure how to do this since there wasn't a given current and time, which I'm used to seeing in these questions.
There are 0.150*0.115=0.01725 moles in total and I expect to multiply that by two because of the two electrons. I guess you do something with 96500 but I'm not sure what.
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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2013, 04:18:13 AM »
41. Use the given standard reduction potentials to determine
the reduction potential for this half-reaction.
MnO4-+e- --> MnO42- +0.564 V
MnO42-+2e-+4H+ --> MnO2+2H2O +2.261 V

I don't get the question. Which reaction?

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I wasn't really sure how to do this since there wasn't a given current and time, which I'm used to seeing in these questions.

F is given in Coulombs, not without a reason. It is all about charge, and q=it. This is basic physics.
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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2013, 06:46:04 AM »
WhoopsI left that out:MnO 4+3e---> MnO2 +H2O.

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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 08:03:17 AM »
WhoopsI left that out:MnO 4+3e---> MnO2 +H2O.

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Re: Two Questions {reduction potentials}
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 11:54:45 AM »
sorry about that , should be 2-

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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 01:01:02 PM »
WhoopsI left that out:MnO 4+3e---> MnO2 +H2O.

sorry about that , should be 2-

So you're saying it is:

MnO42- + 3e- :rarrow: MnO4 + H2O

This cannot be correct. That is Mn(VI) to Mn(IV), which requires 2e-. Hydrogen and oxygen are also not balanced.

Can you write out the question exactly as it was given to you, because this is starting to waste everyone's time.
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Re: Two Questions {reduction potentials}
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 03:13:13 PM »
Yeah my bad, I was typing this on my phone.
Reduction potential for:MnO4-+3e- + 4H+--> MnO2 +2H2O.
Given:
MnO4-+e- --> MnO42- (+0.564 V)
MnO42-+2e-+4H+ --> MnO2+2H2O (+2.261 V)

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Re: Two Questions {reduction potentials}
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2013, 03:48:08 PM »
Ok, so you are on the right track, you have just missed the final step of the calculation.

Hint: In your calculation, you multiplied the value for E(MnO42-/MnO2) by a factor of 2 because E is given "per electron" and there is a transfer of two electrons in that process. What you calculated is the voltage associated with a transfer of 3 electrons...
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Re: Two Questions {reduction potentials}
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2013, 03:57:15 PM »
Aha! So I had to divide by three to get it to be per mole of electrons. Thanks a lot. Sorry I irritated you earlier.

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