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Offline illuminatus104

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Finding the charge on a "common polyatomic ion"?
« on: June 29, 2013, 09:41:07 AM »
Hello

I'm working on naming compounds and would like to know if there is a way to figure out the charge of a "common polyatomic ion". In the text book, there are a few polyatomic ions that we were told to memorize. Do I have to memorize the charges also, or is there a way to figure out the charge? For example


Na2SeO4

So I know that the sodium in this polyatomic ion has a charge of +2, or +1 for each. How do I know that selenate has a charge of 2-? Or does SeO4 have to neutralize the charge of the sodium, so if I know the sodium charge, I know the selenate charge.

I just began learning this, so correct me if I'm using the wrong words to describe something.


Ah, I think asking the question helped me answer it myself. A polyatomic ion must be stable, meaning that the charges are going to neutralize each other like I suspected. So if sodium has a charge of 1+ per atom?, so 2+ for this problem, then the polyatomic ion SeO4 will have a charge of 2-. Is this the case?

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Re: Finding the charge on a "common polyatomic ion"?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2013, 09:50:58 AM »
Several ways to skin that cat.

You can memorize.

Na is always +1, so in Na2XO4 there is no other possibility than XO42-.

Finally, in periodic table is above sulfur, which is a strong indication its chemistry should be to some extent similar. That means you can expect selenic acid to be similar to sulfuric acid - so H2SeO4, just like H2SO4.
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Re: Finding the charge on a "common polyatomic ion"?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2013, 09:54:09 AM »
Thank you borek, I understand now.

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