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Offline homer5677

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Normality/Molarity???
« on: July 04, 2013, 09:04:03 PM »
Hello everyone,
I'm new here but am having a few trouble understanding normality and what it is, and how it can be related to molarity. Particularly the normality of a 0.005M iodine solution that is being titrated for sulphur dioxide content in wine.
Thanks for any replies!

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Re: Normality/Molarity???
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2013, 12:10:20 AM »
Do you know what equivalent weight means?

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Re: Normality/Molarity???
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2013, 07:17:05 AM »
Do you know what equivalent weight means?

I think I have a rough idea. Isn't that just how much of 1 ion is needed to equal 1 mole of a halogen ion such as cl-

Eg. Ca2+
1 eqv = to 1/2 Ca2+? - I think??

How does this help to find the normality or is it kind of the same thing?

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Re: Normality/Molarity???
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2013, 03:57:58 PM »
"Normality" is a concept quite irritating to people used to stoechiometric calculations based on mol/L and that like.

Nevertheless, it is a simplification for people who don't want to bother with calculations of what "on equivalent of iodine" would be like for a given reaction  (like: reaction with sulphur dioxide): x mL * 1 N (iodine) always equals findings of n = x mL* 1 mol/L (SO2)
obviously, the equivalent factors usually belonging to a certain reaction here are included into the concentration of for example the iodine-solution, making concentration * eq-factor  become "normality"

hence, this is kind of a weighting-factor  exclusively for a well defined reaction (and might be completely different if the same substance would be used in a different reaction)

 :rarrow: "N" without explicit declaration of what reaction this "N" is belonging to is meaningless!


examples:
let's consider 2 reactions involving sulphuric acid
(a) formation of BaSO4 :     1 Ba2+ + 1 SO42-  :rarrow: BaSO4 ( :spindown: )
(b) formation of Ag2SO4:   2 Ag+ + 1 SO42-   :rarrow: Ag2SO4 ( :spindown: )

both substances are (next to) insoluble in water

let's say I wanted to measure the content of Ba2+ and Ag+ by their reaction with sulphuric acid by titration

with a 1 mol/L sulphuric acid i would detect n = x mL * 1 mol/L  barium ions , hence the sulphuric acid is 1 N in this case
on the other hand, with a 1 mol/L sulphuric acid i would detect n = 2 * x mL * 1 mol/L  silver ions ("catching two birds with one stone") , hence the sulphuric acid is 2 N in that case

... even if the very concentration in mol/L in both cases is identical


so for your very reaction of iodine with sulfurdioxide, looking at the stoechiometric factors involved:

1 SO2 + 1 I2 +  2 H2:rarrow: 1 SO42- + 4 H+ + 2 I-
you see that a 1 mol/L iodine-solution would be 1 N for this reaction


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