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Offline kriggy

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amount of Fe2O3 and Fe3O4 in ore
« on: October 14, 2013, 03:23:38 PM »
I was helping my GF with this and we cant figure it out. so:
From 50t or iron ore containing Fe2O3 and Fe3O4 is made 35,7t of Fe. How many tonnes of Fe2O3 and) Fe3O4 are in ore (their ratio)?

We are assuming that the ore contains no impurities and the process of smelting ore is has 100% yield.
So the book say that its 29t of Fe3O4 and 21t of Fe2O3.(which doesnt even make the amount of pure iron which is in the written in the task)
But I counted something totaly different, im not sure if Its correct:

mass fraction of Fe in  Fe2O3 is 0,6994, in Fe3O4 is 0,723
W1 is mass fraction of  Fe2O3 in 50t of ore, W2 is same for  Fe3O4

w1+w2=1   -> w1=1-w2
50*0,6994*w1 + 50*0,723*w2 = 35,7
34,97*(1-w2) + 36,15w2 = 35,7
36,15w2 - 34,97w2 = 35,7 - 34,97
1,18w2 = 0,73
w2=0,686

m( Fe3O4) = 0,686*50=30,93t
m( Fe2O3)= 50-30,93 = 19,067t

So did I counted right or made some mistake somewhere ? thanks
« Last Edit: October 14, 2013, 03:56:38 PM by kriggy »

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Re: amount of Fe2O3 and Fe3O4 in ore
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2013, 04:34:21 PM »
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(which doesnt even make the amount of pure iron which is in the written in the task)
don't know what you've been calculating to reach this statement, but in my calculation I'll get ~ 35,67 t of pure iron from the named substances: close enough to 35,7 tons

asides from that: there is nothing wrong with the structure of your calculation, you did everything ok

the problem lies within the numbers and how you're forced to process them ( in computing it's called "numeric instability"), i.e. the degree of abbreviation in the decimals.

to put it into picture: the structure of the task asks you to calculate the weight of a captain, by once weighting his ship with him, and once without him.

 :rarrow: use more precise molecular weights (i.e. 3 decimals or more), more precise intermediary results (like 5 decimals or more) and see for yourself, how suddenly the distribution of tons inbetween the ores will change drastically  (esp. due to the division step involved)


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Re: amount of Fe2O3 and Fe3O4 in ore
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 01:23:16 AM »
Thanks, I got something like 35,4 when I tried to use their result, gotta do it again, probably wanted to be too precise.

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