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4-substituted piperidines
« on: February 06, 2014, 04:39:15 AM »
Synthesis suggestions for different alkyl chains at the para position
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Re: 4-substituted pipyridines
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2014, 05:22:17 AM »
"pipyridine"

is there any typo??

bipyridine or piperidine

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Re: 4-substituted pipyridines
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2014, 05:33:39 AM »
Sorry i meant Piperidine

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Re: 4-substituted piperides
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2014, 07:06:12 AM »
For para-sub. alkyl groups, I think this can be easy and straight forward.

First start from 4-bromopyridine and then you lithiate the bromine by n-butyllithium followed by alkyl iodide.

Then you obtain 4-alkylpyridine. You then do hydrogenation of this pyridine (alkyl group not affected) to offer the piperidine

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Re: 4-substituted piperides
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2014, 07:44:18 AM »
Thank you, because i did it starting from deprotonating picoline using LDA. Although, i want also to synthesize  analogues with a secondary alky chain and i was thinking to use 4-ethyl pyridine and do the same. Nevertheless i like your suggestion. :)

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Re: 4-substituted piperides
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2014, 07:52:52 AM »
1) I do not get the point why you deprotonate picoline....

2) Anyway, for 2o alkyl chains, doing the electrophile quench may be troublesome, I would suggest you also lithiate the 4-bromopyridine, but add ketone this time. The alcohol formed will be 2o then reduce this alcohol to alkane.

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Re: 4-substituted piperidines
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2014, 07:49:02 AM »
Because i had it in the lab and the protons of the methyl group are acidic enough.My yield was 87 % which is good enough and my product was pure even before column.Anyhow, for the secondary ones, using a ketone is a better choice.

(4-bromopyridine is more expensive)

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