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Hi Guys,

I'm just wondering how calcium disodium EDTA ionizes during oral chelation ?

Is the final level of Ca++ and Na+ rises in the "solution" if there's other cations in contact ?

The EDTA----  attracts what kind of cations (+, ++, +++, ++++) preferentially ?

Since EDTA is used to chelate Metals, I suspect that we find something like M(EDTA) or M(EDTA)++, what else, what next ?

Thank you for your help, very appreciated.

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Re: What happens with calcium disodium EDTA during chelation process?
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2014, 04:27:36 PM »
2Na+ + CaY2-
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Re: What happens with calcium disodium EDTA during chelation process?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2014, 07:44:27 AM »
Thanks but what are the possibilities with the chelation then?

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Re: What happens with calcium disodium EDTA during chelation process?
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2014, 07:48:41 AM »
I am not sure what you are asking about. Final charge of the complex will depend on the charge of the central cation. My bet is that the CaY2- is intended to react with other cations doing something like

CaY2- + Men+ ::equil:: MeYn-4 + Ca2+
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Re: What happens with calcium disodium EDTA during chelation process?
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2014, 11:40:19 AM »
Yes, that was the step I'm looking for, there's some misunderstsandings with EDTA acid and EDTA calcium disodium salt, for example:
you can read in some internet places that EDTA calcium disodium might lead to hypocalcemia, wich is not obviously the case with that Ca2+ around but EDTA acid might conduct to hypocalcemia...

My chemistry knowledge is a bit rusty so my English, sorry  ;)

MeYn-4 would get which Me preferentially ? It is said that it's good to sequestrate Pb, is there a scale of "susceptibility" for Me ?

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Re: What happens with calcium disodium EDTA during chelation process?
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 12:43:08 PM »
MeYn-4 would get which Me preferentially ? It is said that it's good to sequestrate Pb, is there a scale of "susceptibility" for Me ?

Depends on the stability constants, so it has to be compared for each metal separately - there is no simple rule.
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Re: What happens with calcium disodium EDTA during chelation process?
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2014, 05:50:27 PM »
Thank you for your help, so in short EDTA calcium disodium loses 2Na+ and Ca2+ and bonds to a Me cation,
 in the end the seric level of Na+ and Ca2+ rise both.

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