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Using Sodium Percarbonate for H202 production
« on: March 24, 2014, 11:09:51 AM »
Hi All,
I'm a little confused by a paper I'm trying to replicate. They say they use "enough sodium percarbonate to produce .025% H202 in water".  I assume they mean weight/volume.  The confusing part to me is when buying sodium percarbonate, it's specified as "avail. H2O2 20-30 %".  I'm not sure how that comes into play or where that number comes from.

This is how I proceeded, if I'm off in my methods, could you please let me know?

I am making 100 mL and want .025% H202.

The mass I need is thus .00025 g/mL * 100 mL = .025 g H202.

Converting that to moles, .025g/34.0147 g/mol = 1.041 x10-3 mol H202

The reaction for producing H202 from sodium percarbonate is:
2Na2CO3ยท3H2O2  :rarrow: 2Na2CO3 + 3H2O2

Therefore I need 2/3 *1.041 * x 10 -3 mol sodium percarbonate or 6.94 x 10 -4 mol sodium percarbonate

That's .095 g of sodium percarbonate, or 95 mg.

I was going to say since worst case scenario is that only 20% of the sodium percarbonate is available for production of H202, that I then just divide by 0.2, yielding 475 mg.  Does this seem right or am I completely missing something?

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Re: Using Sodium Percarbonate for H202 production
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2014, 11:46:11 AM »
I think that figure refers to the amount of H2O2 that can be generated from the stuff in the bottle.
20-30% is quite a wide range, in my opinion.
So I would titrate the stuff to get a more accurate value, especially if you are using sensitive starting materials, or want to use the least amount possible for your reaction.
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Re: Using Sodium Percarbonate for H202 production
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2014, 11:50:47 AM »
I think that figure refers to the amount of H2O2 that can be generated from the stuff in the bottle.
20-30% is quite a wide range, in my opinion.
So I would titrate the stuff to get a more accurate value, especially if you are using sensitive starting materials, or want to use the least amount possible for your reaction.

I agree it's a pretty wide range, I'm using it for a chromogenic reaction with DAB where H202 should be the excess reagent so it's not a huge problem for me to err on the side of too much

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Re: Using Sodium Percarbonate for H202 production
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2014, 12:31:31 PM »
Why not use hydrogen peroxide itself?
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Re: Using Sodium Percarbonate for H202 production
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2014, 12:33:31 PM »
Why not use hydrogen peroxide itself?

it's for a lateral flow assay in which all the reagents are pre-dried on the lateral flow strip so that the end user just adds water and the patient sample to run the test. The 100 mL I provided in the question was just an example to see if I was calculating the percent h202 correctly -- but the idea is to have a dry, stable source of H202.

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