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Offline Rutherford

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Rate determining step stochiometric number
« on: June 17, 2014, 06:39:42 AM »
To apply the rate-determining-step approximation take the reaction rate r as equal to the rate of the rate-determining step (divided by the stoichiometric number srds of the rate-determining step, if srds≠1).
What does the bold text mean? I need some explanation.

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Re: Rate determining step stochiometric number
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2014, 05:15:15 AM »
For example:
The rate of the reaction: I2+2N3-+CS2 ::equil:: 3N2+2I-+CS2 is half the rate of the rate-determining step: CS2+N3- :rarrow: CS2N3-, so r=1/2k[N3-][CS2]

In the rate-determining step one azide molecule participates, while in the overall reaction two molecules participate. Shouldn't then the rate be multiplied by two: r=2k[N3-][CS2]?

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Re: Rate determining step stochiometric number
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2014, 09:06:36 AM »
No. Think about it like this:
For each mole of reaction, 1 mole of I2 is consumed, and 2 moles of N3- are consumed. So the rate of consumption of N3- is twice that of I2:
d[N3-]/dt = 2 d[I2]/dt
So if we define the rate of reaction as the rate of consumption of I2, then
rate = -d[I2]/dt = -1/2 d[N3-]/dt - i.e. you divide by the stoichiometric coefficient, not multiply.
So if the rate of the RDS is r' = -d[N3-]/dt
then rate of reaction r = 1/2 r'.

I strongly dislike this "reaction rate r" language, though I suppose if your textbook or prof uses it, you have to go with it. I much prefer to talk about the rate of change of a specific reagent (e.g. -d[I2]/dt), and keep this in view throughout the calculation. That's how we did kinetics when I learnt it, many moons ago. I think it is easier this way to avoid confusion.

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Re: Rate determining step stochiometric number
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2014, 12:16:32 PM »
I read that in a textbook.
Thanks for the explanation.
I like it most when I don't need to think about these things, i.e. they are included in the rate constant.

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Re: Rate determining step stochiometric number
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2014, 08:55:14 AM »
Isn't thinking about things the reason for studying a science?
Generally, what I would want to say to some of the people who post problems on these forums is: think about what's going on physically, don't just blindly try to apply a formula. If they aim at understanding the science, not just passing an exam, isn't that what they would want to do anyway?

( By the way, I meant N3- of course, not N3-!)

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