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Offline KiraPienaar

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Separating Fe and Mn
« on: August 08, 2014, 06:35:11 AM »
Hi Does anyone know of a method that can be used to separate a mixture (solids in a powdered form) of Fe2+ and Mn2+? I can find many for all the other cations but none that separates these two??

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Re: Separating Fe and Mn
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2014, 08:38:58 AM »
Probably treatment with strong oxidiser. Manganese-II will be oxidised to Permanganate. Iron-II to Iron-III. So you have Kation and an Anion. Furthrt tratments with caustic will precipitate the iron as hydroxide. Also ionexchanger could be a possibility.

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Re: Separating Fe and Mn
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2014, 01:18:30 PM »
Probably treatment with strong oxidiser. Manganese-II will be oxidised to Permanganate. Iron-II to Iron-III. So you have Kation and an Anion.
Unless your oxidizer is strong enough to oxidize iron (in basic solution) to ferrate.

While iron-III is fairly soluble in strong acids and a mild oxidant, manganese-IV is resistant to dissolution and also a strong oxidant. Can you produce reliably and reproducibly conditions where
a) iron is oxidized to Fe(OH)3 and precipitated, Mn stays in solution as Mn-II?
b) Mn is oxidized to MnO2 and precipitated, Fe stays in solution as Fe3+?

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Re: Separating Fe and Mn
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2014, 02:34:23 PM »
to a) not possible, if you alcaline the solution Fe2´+ and Mn2+ will precipitate to the Hydroxides, there will be nothing in solution. Fe(OH)2 will oxidised to Fe3+ by oxygen from the air. So both are not separated.
to b) What kind of conditions ? I think it not possible to get MnO2 and Fe3+ in solution in same time by oxidising.

Ferrate is not stable in acidic conditions. So far I know this can only produced by melting ironoxide and Bariumperoxide.

Permanganate by lead dioxide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanganate

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Re: Separating Fe and Mn
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2014, 02:07:14 AM »
to a) not possible, if you alcaline the solution Fe2´+ and Mn2+ will precipitate to the Hydroxides, there will be nothing in solution. Fe(OH)2 will oxidised to Fe3+ by oxygen from the air. So both are not separated.

Yes, Fe2´+ and Mn2+ will precipitate as hydroxides - at about pH 6...7. Whereas Fe3+ is precipitated about pH 3.

So, in mildly acidic conditions, between 3 and 6, both Fe2´+ and Mn2+ are in solution, but Fe3+ is not, and neither is Mn4+

Are they equally easy to oxidize, or does one of them oxidize and precipitate first?

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