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Weak base and weak acid solution
« on: March 25, 2016, 10:47:46 AM »
(Following this https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/solution-of-salt-of-a-weak-base-and-salt-of-a-weak-acid.813479/)

:Having 1.00 L solution containing 3 moles of NaCH3COO and 2 moles of NH4Cl . find pH.

Attempt to solve the problem:
Step 1: there are CH3COO- , NH4+ ,(H+ ,OH- from water autolysis)



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Re: Weak base and weak acid solution
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2016, 11:00:10 AM »
Without ionic strenght correction treat this solution as 1 M CH3COONa tentatively, but this be only the upper limit for pH since formally 2 M CH3COONH4 works as buffer with high capacity in both directions +pH and -pH. Concentrations of salts are so high that no calculations, even advanced scientific ones will not work exactly. Only measurements can show proper pH.
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Re: Weak base and weak acid solution
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2016, 12:01:52 PM »
Without ionic strenght correction treat this solution as 1 M CH3COONa tentatively, but this be only the upper limit for pH since formally 2 M CH3COONH4 works as buffer with high capacity in both directions +pH and -pH. Concentrations of salts are so high that no calculations, even advanced scientific ones will not work exactly. Only measurements can show proper pH.
If I change condition to 0.03 M and 0.02 M of these salts.
How will the calculation work?

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Re: Weak base and weak acid solution
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2016, 12:28:19 PM »
Without computer program, and without iterations I can say that pH is between 7 and 8.4
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Re: Weak base and weak acid solution
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2016, 07:33:45 PM »
Without computer program, and without iterations I can say that pH is between 7 and 8.4
More Hints ,please.

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Re: Weak base and weak acid solution
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2016, 01:56:02 AM »
And this value make sense.
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