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Presence of Phosphate Reaction
« on: May 15, 2006, 08:20:34 AM »
Does anyone know the redox reaction equations for the reaction between (NH4)6Mo7O24:4H20(Ammonium Molybdate), SnCl2:2H20(Stannous Chloride), and Phosphate that forms Molybdenum Blue(Mo5O14)?The Molybdate solution contains Sulphuric Acid. Also the Stannous Chloride is dissolved in glycerin
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Re: Presence of Phosphate Reaction
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2006, 08:41:11 AM »
I don't think you should consider stannous chloride.

Try to write the chemical equation (what you have worked out so far, at least) and we'll begin to help you.

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Re: Presence of Phosphate Reaction
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2006, 09:08:38 AM »
There are two reaction: non-redox formation of phosphomolybdic acid H3PMo12O40 in acidic medium((HCl) followed by reduction  to Mo5O15 after addition of  SnCl2 to this mixture.
(NH4)6Mo7O24 + Na2HPO4 + HCl = H3PMo12O40 + NH4Cl + NaCl
H3PMo12O40 +SnCl2 + HCl = Mo5O14 + SnCl4 + H3PO4 + H2O
Try to balance above reactions
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Re: Presence of Phosphate Reaction
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2006, 09:33:13 AM »
How would these reactions change if the acid used was H2SO4?

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Re: Presence of Phosphate Reaction
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2006, 09:42:51 AM »
It is just acid, like HCl. In the second reaction may be a propblem with mixture SnCl4 and Sn(SO4)2
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Re: Presence of Phosphate Reaction
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2006, 03:27:52 PM »
I am having trouble balancing the first reaction(I haven't tried the second yet)
This is my best guess so far
12(NH4)6Mo7O24+7PO4-3+21H+=7H3PMo12O40+6NH4+
and at this point I get stuck because I can't balance the oxygens.

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Re: Presence of Phosphate Reaction
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2006, 03:38:37 PM »
I have always written the equation for this test as follows:

3NH4+ + 12MoO42- + PO43- + 24H+ -> (NH4)3PO4.12MoO3 + 12H2O

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Re: Presence of Phosphate Reaction
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2006, 03:46:48 PM »
I have always written the equation for this test as follows:

3NH4+ + 12MoO42- + PO43- + 24H+ -> (NH4)3PO4.12MoO3 + 12H2O

 ???


How does this:12MoO42-
Come from this:(NH4)6Mo7O24
Also, does the dot between the ammonium phosphate and the 12MoO3 mean something? Is it complexing with it?

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Re: Presence of Phosphate Reaction
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2006, 03:51:22 AM »
12(NH4)6Mo7O24 + 7Na2HPO4 + 86HCl = 7H3PMo12O40 + 72NH4Cl + 14NaCl + 36H2O
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