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Offline carotis

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reaction with strong Base but neither E1 nor E2 possible?
« on: October 01, 2016, 01:15:04 PM »
hallo there! :)
I am stucked with a problem here.. lets say I have something like this 8see attachment)
In my opinion neither E2 nor E1 are possible because the beta C is quartery, which means no Elimination. So, under normal standard Elimination conditions, would a SN2 reaction occur or any?

Thanks in advance!

Oh, and can someone explain me when exactly a  Williamsons Ether synthesis happens and why not Elimination, or in which extend? I need the parameters  :(
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Re: reaction with strong Base but neither E1 nor E2 possible?
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2016, 02:51:00 PM »
How fast do you think the reaction will be?

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Re: reaction with strong Base but neither E1 nor E2 possible?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2016, 06:04:14 PM »
oh very fast, so fast that it doesnt even happen  ;D

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Re: reaction with strong Base but neither E1 nor E2 possible?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2016, 12:32:49 PM »
How does the structure of the substrate ordinarily affect the rate of an SN2 process?  Are there any exceptional features of this case?

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