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Offline boroncarbon

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redox equations
« on: November 03, 2016, 05:04:57 AM »
Hi i need help balancing this equation. I suppose you should split it into redox half equations. I can see the iron gets oxidised and the manganese gets reduced. But the oxidation states of the cyanide also changes- which confuses me abit

K4Fe(CN)6 + KMnO4 + H2SO4 --> KHSO4 + Fe2(SO4)3 +MnSO4 + HNO3 + CO2 + H2O

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Re: redox equations
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2016, 05:24:44 AM »
Use method of oxidation numbers (ONs) in trick mode. Use oxidation numbers for C and N from right side of equation on the left side and calculate artificial oxidation number for Fe on the left side (I guess ON for Fe = -58, but check me). You will get a "polite" redox reaction with Mn and Fe that changed ONs on both sides. (the highest coefficient is 299)
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Re: redox equations
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2016, 08:48:21 AM »
a slightly different approach:

you already analysed correctly the "elements" being oxidized, reduced
now you should take a closer look at exactly which atoms are being oxidized, reduced , and how they are stoechiometrically coupled

Fe in K4[Fe(CN)6] is (+II) , Fe in Fe2(SO4)3 is (+III)
 :rarrow: you'll oxidize iron by 1 per iron
... and as you need two irons to create one iron(III)sulfate, that's a total of two electrons being released per basic transformation:

(from 2 K4[Fe(CN)6] ) : 2 Fe(+II)  :rarrow: 2 Fe(+III) + 2 e- (in Fe2(SO4)3)

now, those irons are coupled to 2 * 6 = 12 cyanides
in cyanide, carbon is (+II) and nitrogen is (-III)
carbon goes from (+II) to (+IV) :
(in cyanide) C(+II)  :rarrow: C(+IV) + 2 e- (in CO2 )
nitrogen goes from (-III) to (+V)
(in cyanide) N(-III)  :rarrow: N(+V) + 8 e- (in HNO3)
total: CN-  :rarrow: C(+IV) + N (+V) + 10 e-
for 12 cyanides: 12 CN-  :rarrow: 12C(+IV) + 12 N (+V) + 120 e-

considering the coupling once again:
(in 2 K4[Fe(CN)6] ) 2 [Fe(CN)6]4-  :rarrow: 2 Fe(+III) + 12C(+IV) + 12 N (+V) + 122 e- (in named substances)

... and this is the total oxidation taking place per 2 units of K4[Fe(CN)6] , and has to be balanced with the electron uptake, i.e. reduction of manganese per transformation Mn(+VII) (in permanganate) + 5 e- :rarrow: Mn(+II) (in manganese-(II)-sulfate)

think you can manage the rest?

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Re: redox equations
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2016, 08:57:34 AM »
Both methods are exactly equivalent. One of them needs more time.
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Re: redox equations
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 09:32:59 AM »
This kind of reaction is probably easiest to balance by the algebraic method. No tricks involved, just a frontal attack.

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