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Selective removal of methyl ester in presence of benzoyl ester
« on: November 04, 2016, 07:49:49 AM »
Hi there :)

I've tried using LiOH 4eq, than 2eq and I essentially cleave both esters. Bear in mind that I also have a glycosidic linkage in my molecule so acidic deprotection is a no go.

I was thinking of maybe using LiI or NaI in pyridine, but that's for systems where you have some EWG in alpha position. Also what comes to my mind is Na2CO3

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Re: Selective removal of methyl ester in presence of benzoyl ester
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2016, 02:40:37 PM »
I was thinking of maybe using LiI or NaI in pyridine, but that's for systems where you have some EWG in alpha position.

There is precedent for this, e.g. http://charette.corg.umontreal.ca/resume/EROS-ABC/Lithium_Iodide.pdf

If you have an α-EWG you will get decarboxylation (Krapcho reaction), but without it you should get the carboxylic acid.
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Re: Selective removal of methyl ester in presence of benzoyl ester
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2016, 04:20:42 PM »
Thanks for pointing that out. I will try with NaI since we dont have LiI in my lab at the moment.
I'll report back with the results.

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Re: Selective removal of methyl ester in presence of benzoyl ester
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2016, 03:08:44 AM »
I was thinking of maybe using LiI or NaI in pyridine, but that's for systems where you have some EWG in alpha position.

There is precedent for this, e.g. http://charette.corg.umontreal.ca/resume/EROS-ABC/Lithium_Iodide.pdf

If you have an α-EWG you will get decarboxylation (Krapcho reaction), but without it you should get the carboxylic acid.

I haven't managed to find any recent literature about methyl ester cleavages with LiI. All I was able to find is this: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/0471264180.or024.02/abstract. I used one of the procedures... 4eq of LiI in pyridine, but all i got is starting compounds :/

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Re: Selective removal of methyl ester in presence of benzoyl ester
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2016, 03:21:17 AM »
What about here:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/0471264180.or024.02/abstract

Are you heating your reaction?

You can switch from pyridine to lutidine, collidine or DMF to reach higher temperatures.
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Re: Selective removal of methyl ester in presence of benzoyl ester
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2016, 03:49:56 AM »
You gave me the same paper i linked you :) Yeah i was considering DMF but i chose not to do in it since it degrades at high temperatures.
And yeah, I was refluxing it overnight and nothing happened.

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Re: Selective removal of methyl ester in presence of benzoyl ester
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2016, 03:58:20 AM »
You gave me the same paper i linked you :) Yeah i was considering DMF but i chose not to do in it since it degrades at high temperatures.
And yeah, I was refluxing it overnight and nothing happened.

Sorry, wasn't concentrating.

I agree re: DMF, I'd try lutidine first
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