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loves2Spl00ge
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Organocatalysis mechanism?
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December 02, 2016, 12:03:44 AM »
I'm stuck on how this mechanism should start. My gut is saying the primary amine attacks either the aldehyde carbonyls or the CH2 pi orbitals. Any suggestions?
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December 02, 2016, 07:54:08 AM »
Start out on the condensation of the primary amine and the
shorter
one of the two aldehydes. From there on you could try and figure out the mechanism, using arrow-pushing of electrons.
Have you learned about the Pictet-Spengler and Sakurai reactions yet?
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December 02, 2016, 02:02:36 PM »
We didn't go over those two reactions, but I did google them, and it made things much clearer. Will the step after the pictet-spengler reaction be an intramolecular sakurai?
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December 03, 2016, 06:43:18 AM »
Yes, could you draw the mechanism you got right now?
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Step 1) list the possibilities by making an educated guess what plausible mechanisms are.
Step 2)
Step 3) choose the one that leads to the product.
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Step 4) profit
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