November 29, 2024, 01:50:29 PM
Forum Rules: Read This Before Posting


Topic: Effect of Polar Solvents on Salt Solubility  (Read 3446 times)

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline hosseini_157

  • Very New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-0
Effect of Polar Solvents on Salt Solubility
« on: February 15, 2018, 07:20:19 AM »
Dear friends,

I had a critical ambiguity regarding the effect of polar solvents on salt solubility. For example, I add NaCl to water and make a solution. After that, I add a less polar solvent such as methanol, the salt starts to precipitate. From the chemistry point of view, is it related to the rate of reaction (Gibbs free energy) and to be described in this way, or it is not associated with this concept. Or adding this solvent just affect the instability of reactant and transition state the solution?

Thanks.

Offline Arkcon

  • Retired Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7367
  • Mole Snacks: +533/-147
Re: Effect of Polar Solvents on Salt Solubility
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2018, 09:40:01 AM »
Dear friends,

I had a critical ambiguity regarding the effect of polar solvents on salt solubility. For example, I add NaCl to water and make a solution. After that, I add a less polar solvent such as methanol, the salt starts to precipitate.

Well, on a level, its a simple concept of reduced solubility the the second solvent you chose.  But let's treat the rest of your question.

Quote
From the chemistry point of view, is it related to the rate of reaction (Gibbs free energy) and to be described in this way,

Well, if we're going to use Gibbs free energy of a reaction.  We should describe the two systems: solution of NaCl in water, solution of NaCl in methanol, and compare.  (And of course, the new, mixed system isn't really described by either.)  However, more troubling for me -- can we describe dissolving a salt as a reaction?

Quote
or it is not associated with this concept.

As I said I above, I don't think so.  But it has to be described that way, if we want to consider it so.

Quote
Or adding this solvent just affect the instability of reactant and transition state the solution?

That can be another way top describe the system. But again, I can't be sure its pertinent.  Can you find a textbook that describes dissolving in this way?  How do textbooks describe the dissolving of salts?

Quote
Thanks.
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

Offline Corribus

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3551
  • Mole Snacks: +546/-23
  • Gender: Male
  • A lover of spectroscopy and chocolate.
Re: Effect of Polar Solvents on Salt Solubility
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2018, 09:53:39 AM »
However, more troubling for me -- can we describe dissolving a salt as a reaction?
What's a reaction?  From a thermodynamic sense, is the distinction important?
What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he were like a man, but if he is an immense spinning sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent?  - Richard P. Feynman

Sponsored Links