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Offline cuongt

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solubility
« on: July 17, 2006, 09:57:00 PM »
why is butanoic acid more soluble than methyl proponoate?

from what i know.  Carboxylic acids with up to four carbon atoms will mix with water in any proportion.
but i dont know why lol. and small esters are fairly soluble in water but solubility falls with chain length. bis this the reason? have i answered my own question? lol :P


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Re: solubility
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2006, 01:11:40 AM »
Carboxylic acids have an OH group and esters don't.  OH groups hydrogen bond well with water, so the presence of OH groups will help improve solubility in water.

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Re: solubility
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2006, 09:23:34 PM »
Butyric acid contains polar OH (hydrogen bond forming fundtional group) where as Methylpropanoate is an ester where the OH group is occupied. You need to look at the polar vs non polar ratio, when the carbon chain (non polar portion) is small enough the entire molecule has a better polar ability, but as you extend the carbon chain the non-polar portion increases and this makes the solubility in water decrease. Same applies with esters, look at the polar vs non polar ratio and this is one factor which influences solubility in water.

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Re: solubility
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2006, 08:46:01 AM »
thanx a lot guys

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